We're joined by Greg Leatherman this week, who told us he was inspired to pick up Pokémon Unite for the first time after he heard our first episode featuring Bree van Durr and Chef Greenring. He fell in love with the game and has been playing ever since all thanks to us! Anyway, he's on to learn from an actual Expert and Veteran what it takes to go toe-to-toe in the Aeos Islands.
Notes: Give Master Greg a follow on X, the site formerly known as Twitter, @whitewing and Instagram @lysander03!
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[00:00:39] failings is coming to Pokemon unite welcome to the show
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[00:00:48] watching the gameplay vid yeah it looks like a Mario character to me and we are
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[00:01:06] Sarah Greg I don't know Greg told us what that's the that's the
[00:01:13] that's coming after failings it's got two big swords for arms yeah you heard
[00:01:19] it here first everyone spoilers Sarah led just coming to Pokemon unite
[00:01:23] that's a experience your exclusive thank you for sharing it with us
[00:01:26] Greg Latherman yep glad to welcome thank you thank you for having me I'm here
[00:01:34] mostly because the first time you covered this you had mentioned something
[00:01:39] about being expert pro gamers and I was so curious what your rankings are in
[00:01:45] ranked matches I am actually expert rank so if you have any questions about
[00:01:50] Pokemon unite you want to know anything about did you did you know that your
[00:01:57] rank is the best one must be your rank is so low I am actually not able to play
[00:02:03] with you because I'm at master rank yeah we were able to play our solo that it
[00:02:07] will bar me from actually joining any matches with y'all because you're so
[00:02:13] bad at the game what about what about veteran I'm a veteran isn't that better
[00:02:17] a veteran yeah is veteran better I think if I'm like if I'm ill let me think
[00:02:23] about this if I'm ill and I need to go to the doctor am I going to a veteran
[00:02:27] doctor no they've been out of med school for like years they don't know like
[00:02:31] they're so behind you know they have to do new trainings every year and
[00:02:35] am I going to an expert doctor yes no I so or a master doctor I'm going to
[00:02:43] master doctor doctor here's actually sound master doctor actually sound here are
[00:02:47] your ranks so beginner boo we don't like them great okay you're great expert
[00:02:55] sure I mean I want to see the credentials veteran that means you've seen
[00:03:00] things you know things you've been in the field yes all tries the one that
[00:03:05] doesn't make a lot of sense ultra should be where expert is an expert should be
[00:03:09] ultra and then master where I am and have been for the last 18 seasons oh my
[00:03:16] god yeah so that's the last one I'm not that's the last so master rank has so
[00:03:21] then your master 1200 master 1400 and master 1600 and I do not hate myself
[00:03:29] enough to shoot for 1600 I can't you know what is that what does that even mean
[00:03:34] because the other ones don't even have like they just do the rank like on class
[00:03:39] four yeah not where are they getting 1600 from suddenly so as 1200 points
[00:03:45] 1400 point 1600 points huh already learning something can I take greed and all
[00:03:52] the way you can you can people do Greg have you seen some other questions
[00:03:56] for you as a greed and master are you jungle invade greed which is the only way
[00:04:02] to play greed and properly usually I'll pick a friend an ally and all kind of
[00:04:09] follow them around not just wrong just hammer it people greed goes into the
[00:04:14] other sides jungle and steals everything and gets out that is why they exist
[00:04:19] jungle invade greed and everybody hates jungle invade greed and everybody who
[00:04:23] sees greed and it's like kill it I like to do the big belches they're pretty fun
[00:04:29] yeah you can really clear out a room you got more into the belching I like it to
[00:04:33] wait until everyone is up by the legendaries trying to like get them to go
[00:04:38] towards the other person's end zone yeah and then I'll just go in there and just
[00:04:41] start belching on everybody and really stink up the place gross everyone drops
[00:04:46] their little orbs their little aos orbs and I gobble them all up get out of
[00:04:50] here I mean that's Greg that's how a real expert place so yeah you know maybe
[00:04:56] you might be learning some veteran and ultra or a master you might learn some
[00:05:00] things today too I doubt it probably gonna actually yeah yeah you're gonna want to go
[00:05:05] for those legendary Pokemon yeah you are really good at what I want to rotate to
[00:05:10] the bottom ready please go go to the bottom do not be tempted by the giant
[00:05:16] electrical ready up top that is not your goal you want to go to the one at the
[00:05:21] bottom that boost is better I see like everyone always
[00:05:25] goes down to always he's always just ready because everybody thinks like launches
[00:05:29] like 30 seconds after the first one so everyone runs up to the first one
[00:05:32] because they're impatient well they launched at the same time the XP boost
[00:05:37] you get from the bottom Reggie so outweighs anything that's gonna happen with
[00:05:42] Reggie lucky up top Reggie lucky up top is a distraction and it is the wrong
[00:05:48] thing to do you need to go down get the because if you kill the bottom not only
[00:05:53] do you get a stat boost but everybody gets next p boost everybody doesn't matter
[00:05:59] they are better it is a thousand percent why do we all go for Reggie like you
[00:06:04] because it's big and sparky and it scores points yeah but the reality is if
[00:06:09] you're down below if you kill that Reggie below you can make it up top and stop
[00:06:14] Reggie lucky in its tracks and it gets nowhere it's completely stop it doesn't
[00:06:18] do anything but score points I can't wait to tell everyone in the next
[00:06:23] veterans meeting that I have okay let them know because veteran class is where
[00:06:27] they need to start learning
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[00:06:32] you know I was in the A.O. Swarth veteran Legion yeah that's a good tip hot tip
[00:06:40] from master Greg yeah master Greg expert Tanner veteran Josh master Greg that
[00:06:46] actually all sounds pretty nice really good yeah it reminds me of I heard a
[00:06:50] story this might be made up but I heard a story like good great start yep it
[00:06:55] is NASA had to change the names of like the like the little like condoms you
[00:07:00] wrap around your penis for your in flight P-bag I don't think you had to
[00:07:05] explain that the condom goes around the penis well I mean it's maybe some
[00:07:13] people are learning that it's another thing you can learn from this episode
[00:07:16] I don't know enough about it to speak on it with any authority but I think
[00:07:20] it's like a little sock you put around your penis so that you can pee while
[00:07:23] you're in a space suit oh got it I'm searching Google NASA peace-sock right now
[00:07:27] and I heard a story that they had sizes and everyone kept choosing large and
[00:07:33] then everyone's little piece off kept falling off so they had to like
[00:07:36] rename all the sizes yeah that's like they made like the medium like extra
[00:07:41] large right everyone started picking that and that's what if the ranks in
[00:07:44] Pokemon unite feel like I'm like the third rank I'm the third worst
[00:07:48] ranked you are yeah and I'm expert apparently it's called your in collection
[00:07:54] hardware according to NASA that I just looked at on Google so it's your
[00:08:01] nickname now we just use it much you'll just call you UCH for short yeah
[00:08:06] and Tanner UCH what tell me about your history with Pokemon unite Craig
[00:08:14] even play since the battle days yeah you play every day did you play mobs
[00:08:18] before this to or so I've I've not played an official moba long term I did so
[00:08:25] when world a warcraft did their whatever legends of heart storm or whatever
[00:08:30] that was heroes of the story of the storm whatever that was I play that for a
[00:08:36] hot second and then when you night came out a like that I get to run around
[00:08:41] as a Pokemon that's fun it is B it's a 10 minute it's a 10 minute commitment
[00:08:46] at best right it's also absolutely infuriating many times but it was it hit
[00:08:54] sort of all of the quick competitive they had a bunch of really interesting
[00:09:00] Pokemon choices you just kind of get in get out you can play with up to five
[00:09:04] people which is fun of course they're gonna play with five people you need to be
[00:09:08] in a discord talking to it's you need to have communication they do not
[00:09:14] have communications in that game that are worth a darn yeah and all of their
[00:09:18] like yeah any any of the time like when someone takes the time to do though
[00:09:24] it like prompts you to give a little thumbs up or whatever it's like who's got
[00:09:27] the time to hit the end the plot so whatever it has built-in voice system now
[00:09:32] and I always turn it off because it's just full of people who speak foreign
[00:09:37] languages screaming at you for not doing what they think you should do I never
[00:09:41] never use I just turn it off oh my god I don't need your input because you're
[00:09:45] going to Reggie Lucky and I already know that your opinion is useless I need
[00:09:49] nothing expert rank yeah yeah yeah
[00:09:55] nothing for me to learn from you people I started playing right away I just
[00:09:59] enjoyed it it's easy to play over lunch breaks or like I'm gonna spend an hour
[00:10:04] at night playing for a while I will admit that I am apparently into punishment
[00:10:14] because I get to master rank by playing support in solo queue I only play
[00:10:22] support when I'm so getting my way to master rank so I pick so I play
[00:10:29] Elte gas I always play Elte gas oh man I hate going up against those and I'm
[00:10:36] apparently very good at it because for the last 18 seasons I've hit master
[00:10:40] rank every time and I only do support if you were like why do I don't know why
[00:10:46] I do this other than I can like I know that I'll play that Pokemon really well
[00:10:51] I'm very good at it it is pretty rare like that's I mean in any mobile from my
[00:10:56] experience at least and I played like three or four support is always the one
[00:11:01] that like is least yeah yeah popular I think yeah that gives you a niche
[00:11:07] that's kind of I'm the support life I I play my little cotton ball occasionally
[00:11:14] if somebody picks Blyssi and I'm like we're not having two healers I'll switch
[00:11:18] over to Serena I do say I'm allies if I feel like I really just want to make
[00:11:23] everybody angry I do not like say Bly and I've noticed that I love most playing
[00:11:29] say Bly I've only seen him like two or three times I think it's it's a bad
[00:11:36] it's bad they nerfed it to the point where nope is there's no point in
[00:11:40] playing it unless you are just there to be a troll and that is that is
[00:11:44] say Bly's life is to be a troll so you're either support or you're a troll yeah
[00:11:49] okay I did do if I'm getting if I'm having a particularly bad night and I'm
[00:11:55] just mad at everybody else which to me too for a while because yes that's
[00:11:59] just a one button you hit it and things happen and you don't have to think
[00:12:03] it's like I'm just gonna get the button whatever yeah I've I picked up from
[00:12:08] since what it's been a couple of months since we did the first part of this
[00:12:12] Pokemon unite series and I got into the subreddit for Pokemon unite and I
[00:12:17] picked up pretty quickly that Mewtwo players are are not super well respected
[00:12:23] they're not especially like it's easy mode yeah yeah yeah and I guess it's
[00:12:29] like it's not as harsh if like you're actually good at using Mewtwo but it's
[00:12:34] that Mewtwo is pretty easy to use and if you're bad and a lot of people who are
[00:12:39] new to the game well I'm not gonna say what I switch to but I have not been
[00:12:44] playing as Mewtwo in the season for the most part because I ride on the other
[00:12:48] horrible thing that's happening I would not play as Mariton because I hate it so
[00:12:53] much when I've encountered it that is my cheat that thing with the charge beam
[00:12:58] it just sits there and then it's just KOing people that seems even worse
[00:13:03] than like I think the complaint with Mewtwo is like oh every like new players
[00:13:07] like oh it's Mewtwo that's cool and like they can get away with it pretty
[00:13:10] easily but you can't also still be terrible and yeah I think most of the time
[00:13:15] it seems like the stereotype of Mewtwo players is that they are bad but then if
[00:13:20] you're good then it's like okay fine like great I mean it's fine that they've
[00:13:25] is even they've nerfed Mewtwo down to acceptable levels they have not nerfed
[00:13:31] Mariton down to go they've nerfed it already some probably not to where it
[00:13:35] needs to be to be fair but that's why Mariton Zasian and Mewtwo are all
[00:13:40] exes so that they can band them every other season to say you can't play these
[00:13:46] characters because it's so unbalanced oh I didn't realize that was yeah that's
[00:13:51] why they're exes is so that they can say these people are meant but the problem
[00:13:55] is there only band and master rank so you can have a miserable time up to
[00:14:00] master rank and then if they're banned that season then you can't then you don't
[00:14:04] run into exes anymore but it doesn't matter at that point because you're already
[00:14:08] at master rank you're already done you're just like I go I got here and now it's
[00:14:13] just for points and can you get booted in a season if you get you make it up to
[00:14:17] master can you get booted out of it or you're like you're not you're in it so
[00:14:22] they made the change recently is that once you've hit a rank you can no longer
[00:14:25] fall out of that rank so before if you got to alter a rank and you had a
[00:14:31] bunch of losses you would fall to veteran one rank now they've changed it
[00:14:35] that once you've achieved a rank you cannot fall below that rank which is
[00:14:40] both good and bad because some people the game it for the first time in like a
[00:14:44] year like Josh and I just did yeah I would not want to be in master rank if
[00:14:49] I had come back to the so you your class your beginning rank resets every
[00:14:54] season so I so the seasons are usually three months I think I think it was 90
[00:15:01] days when I started this one yeah but where you end the last rank will determine
[00:15:07] where you start this next rank so I'll end in master rank class which means when I start next
[00:15:14] season I'll be ultra five or ultra four depending on how many points I ended up with
[00:15:20] I'll probably ultra four because I got to 1400 whatever but like if you're an ultra
[00:15:25] class you will probably drop down to expert depending on it and then you build back up from
[00:15:31] there so I will drop to ultra class and before until recently like if you were to hit a series
[00:15:39] of bad things you could fall from ultra all the way down to expert which has happened to me
[00:15:44] I have as a support player when you two was incredibly popular just dropped in the rankings
[00:15:51] because they could never win but now once you're in around with the Hoy boy yeah I mean you see
[00:15:59] down down to the garbage pits losing to me because I honestly have not I don't think I've lost a
[00:16:05] game yet maybe I've lost one are you still only doing green yeah yeah green's tough but you're
[00:16:12] running into people who don't understand how to deal with greed and at these levels when
[00:16:16] you get into ultra people like the other room the other question I had I didn't I don't know if
[00:16:23] I got this mangled but one of the things I picked up on the subreddit was they Nintendo will pump
[00:16:29] in bots at some is that in that can't be in ranked right that must be when it's no it's ranked two
[00:16:35] so how does that work with the naming like you don't run into bot matches in master rank below master
[00:16:43] rank if you lose X amount of times usually it's four or five oh sometimes it's four sometimes
[00:16:49] is five you'll get what's called a bot match it will pull names and users from that exists in the
[00:16:57] game oh wow that's but they're run by the computer and you can always tell it's a bot match that if
[00:17:04] you damage them enough they immediately turn around and run back to home base that's a bot match
[00:17:09] okay also the solo mode that they entered in which is actually really great mode that's I haven't
[00:17:15] all bought solo so the most pretty fun it allows you to sort of try out other Pokemon against bots
[00:17:24] is starts out really easy but if you get to extreme level in solo mode that's pretty close to an
[00:17:31] actual match like the bots are really smart they do what they're supposed to do they'll rotate
[00:17:37] so it's a good way does this sort of like I want to see how this plays and I'm not affecting my rank
[00:17:42] and I'm not having to deal with other players like I can just sort of figure out how these attacks work
[00:17:49] how things are supposed to go and I'm still getting rewards for it because that's how you get
[00:17:53] Leon's costume and Cynthia's costume should you wish to wear those costumes I would like
[00:17:59] Cynthia's costume yeah yeah do solo gotta do some solo challenge like it's a good way to test out
[00:18:05] yeah it is who okay it's better than practice because practice is only against one other
[00:18:12] Pokemon and you're the only one on the field so you can't sort of figure out how you fit in with
[00:18:16] other other laners or jungle or support like without the other things there it's hard to get a sense
[00:18:23] of how it plays so the mud is a really good addition that allows you to practice with semi intelligent
[00:18:31] bots that will give you a hint of what it's like to be in an actual match it's another thing I learned
[00:18:36] too bad I got other Pokemon games to play you're trying to get us to play masters we got scarlet
[00:18:40] violet to play you can skip scarlet violet well I would say though like to Greg's like first point
[00:18:47] the fact that you can hop in and any matches no more than 10 minutes yeah is really refreshing about
[00:18:53] this game because like I mean I had like a antenna two had a moment with hot here's a storm but
[00:18:59] that was usually like it's a night where like I'm gonna be playing it for a while because those
[00:19:04] could be I mean there almost never 10 minutes but they could be like 15 or 20 but they could also
[00:19:09] be fucking like 40 and so you never know like having the time limit I think is one of the better
[00:19:14] innovations like this yeah yeah the time limit I think really makes it much more enjoyable for me
[00:19:21] to play like I if I play for an hour I probably gotten four matches done four matches is usually enough
[00:19:27] to climb a rank if I'm ranking so you usually have to win three and then one more to get to the
[00:19:33] next range so if you're going from ultra five to ultra four generally you have to win four matches
[00:19:38] to get there I can do that in an hour and then I'm like okay I'm super hyped up and angry at
[00:19:44] these people I'm gonna take a break right or things are going really well I'm gonna play for another
[00:19:49] hour but it is you get a lot of bang for your time investment with this game yeah and you can play
[00:19:55] it on the I still play handheld you can throw some crap on the TV it's nice yeah I
[00:20:01] I'm playing it's playing it's on the big TV I need to see I need to see everything I need to
[00:20:06] I need to follow arena I guess that's that's that's how a master plays there we go
[00:20:14] all right well we should probably talk about the lessons we've learned along the way Joshua
[00:20:20] because we played Pokemon what's this game called you night yeah like what six months ago it wasn't
[00:20:27] that long ago it was sometime this year it was it's in six months is real close maybe I don't
[00:20:33] you've been puts it around for a while now you had to go through all of legends which is a great
[00:20:38] game yeah that was a hell of a game I'm still there's there's an alpha rozerade right there and you both
[00:20:46] just ignored it never once talked about it never once mentioned how awesome I did I caught it
[00:20:52] I didn't even counter the right thing K our pal their favorite Pokemon is here in alpha form
[00:21:00] not even on a single team also I'm sorry I did you collect all the wisps no no because the prize
[00:21:08] was for it a spirit tomb oh no it's like baked yeah and then the spirit little girl or
[00:21:16] boy did it say that you get a spirit because she's part of the spirit tomb she gets transformed
[00:21:24] it she's a ghost she's a ghost also if you collect here's the other thing I think I got like
[00:21:30] a lot of them but if you collect all the I decided is a slug too right yeah I think that's what
[00:21:36] the slugs I can't get I'm so bad at you with that whole slug thing I can't even I can't even I
[00:21:40] can't even we had a side master you know you have a master of your master slugs look all I've
[00:21:48] say is if you're going to pick an actual hard theme stick to the theme well the the slugs
[00:21:56] we have to take a break from a time we're gonna go back in the notes a little bit and look at
[00:22:02] Tanner's final team uh and and run him down and you tell me what's not a slug great okay
[00:22:10] well and you're gonna dispute the slug the scientist with PhD in the scientist's justification was
[00:22:18] doctor like what's this spherical cow sito if you strip away everything that makes a slug
[00:22:24] then these could be slugs that was that was the that was the end outcome of that
[00:22:30] west c and e c gastron both slugs yeah still eggs no yes no it's a snake and no that's a snail
[00:22:40] no go okay we did go into that yeah man of fee no yes it's a lot of sprites it is not it's a water sprite
[00:22:50] that's it is not also no that is a computer virus you're a computer virus your mobs a computer virus
[00:22:59] you're all over the map on this one those are all slugs yeah we we had uh there was another slug
[00:23:05] scientist uh uh you the user was jlay f i believe on our subreddit who doctor uh who weighed in on
[00:23:16] the slug Scientology is Scientology slug Scientology is a lot of other thing we can't get into that
[00:23:24] on this episode uh but this doctor also said steelix was a no but man of fee yes
[00:23:30] outrageous goodra we know about the snail thing but that's like an asterisk both the gastro-dance
[00:23:36] obviously porigon z was a no also hard no but i feel like none of you ever have even like
[00:23:43] seen a slug that's what they love i mean i haven't seen a slug in a few years i would say so maybe
[00:23:49] it's like have you seen a slug ever in your life that is the first question here's the other thing
[00:23:54] the thugs here's the other thing if you collect all of the unknown they start appearing in that cave
[00:24:03] and you can hunt an alpha shiny unknown d if you were really actually an unknown hunter d
[00:24:11] i do like the d i would have like that but i i wasn't josh i don't know if you heard but
[00:24:19] soren over california actually pulled ahead of yes i heard i ended with but i'm saying if you
[00:24:24] collect all of them they start spawning in there and you can spawn alphas so you can get a shiny alpha
[00:24:31] unknown d shiny is a little lazy i would say no it is like blue it's just like blue
[00:24:37] blue yeah
[00:24:40] woo all right that was the last game we're not playing we're playing
[00:24:43] put them on your night put them on your night in the aos region joshua tell me about some of the
[00:24:48] some of the lessons you've you've learned since last time any updates any any new teammates
[00:24:54] new mains i did uh i moved on from i still mix in you two occasionally but my main for this
[00:25:02] season has been krammeront krammeront the cram i love krammerant because they're so easy to kill
[00:25:09] well run up to a krammerant belch on him a couple of times if you don't know what you're doing
[00:25:13] and all their little gold orbs but i think to be playing krammerant will which i did and also i
[00:25:18] switched it has a chef outfit so in the lore of this it's that bree you know heard about this
[00:25:25] chef green ring and she's competitive so she had to switch over to like she went to like you know
[00:25:31] the culinary institute of aos island she got this krammerant and now they're cooking duo so they're
[00:25:37] going up against chef green ring and the neon evangel on gredan or whatever the hell you were calling
[00:25:43] them um but uh i think uh i mean the way that you play it is you have to just hang back especially
[00:25:51] until like you get i mean i play with the surf build i started it i was doing like hurricane
[00:25:59] but i started mixing up with like surf plus um what is it the uh aerial ace whatever the feather one
[00:26:06] is yeah where he he shoots like three i think feathers out and then he pops back a little bit so you
[00:26:12] can use that as another way of like uh escaping pretty easily so it's more of like yeah and that's
[00:26:18] one that heals you i think run in do a bunch of damage run back out and probably kill some like creeps
[00:26:25] the yeah and that went to air slash and that one if you get it to level 11 heals you which makes
[00:26:31] krammerant a lot harder to deal with yeah so that's what i started doing the past couple of weeks uh
[00:26:36] and i also just love the um if you time it's um it's unite move well which i'm also i should have
[00:26:44] just pulled this up so i know what the names of all these things are gatling gulp missile yeah
[00:26:49] gatling gulp missiles so it just plants itself and you can't move or do anything but then it's just
[00:26:54] like popping off rapidly uh and if you get it so it's great for like when everyone is clustering around
[00:27:00] requaza and then you can just pop you know like so two things if you have the escape button
[00:27:09] you can use that while in krammerance unite to pop forward or backwards so if you have it and
[00:27:17] you're firing it and people are running out you can pop towards where they're running and they
[00:27:22] are stuck in it and have to run out further so that's a strat for that one that's a good
[00:27:26] i don't find her i don't have that if you are playing with elapras and lapras does their unite
[00:27:33] where you're riding on their back you can then launch krammerance unite so you're basically a gatling
[00:27:39] gun on the back of a surfing lapras that's running around that's that's the coolest and kind of
[00:27:46] cutest thing i've ever heard you can look at video flooring i don't think i've seen elapras
[00:27:52] yeah lapras isn't as popular right now i yeah i think i've never encountered one they gave me one
[00:27:57] yeah they'll give you one in the menu hell it was like hey do you want to lapras here's it's on your
[00:28:01] team now yeah but um i don't think i've run it yet there's a lot of i tried out i think you hell
[00:28:06] seems like it's gotten worse since last oh it is the menus are the worst it's absolutely insane
[00:28:14] it's like and i don't know like some of these things i feel like i haven't even used i mean i
[00:28:18] know we got the basics like the gems and the coins the tickets but then there was like maritans
[00:28:23] sandwich trail or whatever like the energy rewards i don't know what's going on with like the tank
[00:28:30] that you you can attach to it uh you got the the anniversary ball thing like i know that you can
[00:28:37] and it's laid out so confi- like the the ui is just absolutely ready to realize terrible and they never
[00:28:43] tell you what like i never know what to be optimizing for when it's like oh you could use gems or
[00:28:49] coins or tickets or whatever like some of them are like gems either or it's like i don't know what
[00:28:54] i don't know what's the most valuable and they don't never use gems never use gems don't
[00:28:58] don't pay them money just don't use gems gems are hard currency that's actual physical money
[00:29:04] the only way you can even get those so i have remnants of that because like i bought the the chef
[00:29:09] yeah for example i had to so the maritans sandwich thing is the way to get maritan for free
[00:29:14] that's the board game basically where if you get enough sand if you get a thousand sandwiches
[00:29:20] you can get them right on license for free i have like 200 yeah i mean i play this
[00:29:27] i have played this so i i have that's how i got me to for free so i got so i should for free and
[00:29:31] this is how i got maritan for free because i play every day in a complete the board game and
[00:29:36] get all the sandwiches or whatever it is and then you turn them in to get the license this morning
[00:29:40] i couldn't even find did they stop it i was like it yeah the board game is done oh i could
[00:29:45] even get a free maritan has has left it ended at the end of middle of march i didn't get it
[00:29:51] yeah i didn't use my sandwiches at all i could could have cashed them in maybe what am i going to
[00:29:56] do with all these sandwiches well i got now oh good at least i'm gonna take care of them okay so
[00:30:03] don't use james coins and tickets are where it's at i got that coins tickets are where it's at do
[00:30:08] i need to feel fill the tanks on that energy rewards thing that doesn't seem to i don't really
[00:30:13] get what that does does that give me so more ways and the reward allows you to try turn in to get
[00:30:19] emblems and emblems are ways that you can customize your play style i did want to talk about that
[00:30:24] because i've spent a lot of time min maxing my like yeah well roulette min maxing is last time we
[00:30:31] talked you were you were anti yeah i got into that i think yeah no emblems are their game changing
[00:30:38] they're not game breaking and you don't need them to do well in the night it just helps
[00:30:44] you to lean into a play style that you like and it does give you some advantages but there are
[00:30:50] disadvantages to them i think they've really balanced the emblem system really well like they're
[00:30:54] pretty good at allowing you to customize how you play your character and what it's good at when
[00:31:00] it's bad at yeah that's what i like is it is just getting them all i mean it's the only thing you
[00:31:04] spend energy on you'll get yeah that's all i want to mount and then that's all you do because the
[00:31:09] fashion items that are in there are bad yeah i learned it all back quickly yeah they're all bad
[00:31:14] they often will put pokemon licenses in there too right and i was also like i play like
[00:31:20] basically the same Pokemon every time so i don't need a bunch of random outfits joshua let's
[00:31:27] take a break okay no tricks this time no tricks i for either of you let's just go take a break
[00:31:32] let's come back in a minute let's keep talking about pokemon you're a real ally Tanner
[00:31:41] welcome back bug what do we call them on this on the unites um orb what
[00:31:50] like orb collectors orb suckers or suckers is good welcome back orb suckers this is experience share
[00:31:57] we are playing through pokemon unite for the second time this year actually it was last year
[00:32:03] it's been really been a while joh i guess so but it's like part of my it's worked its way into
[00:32:11] i mean obviously i'm not playing every day nor am i as good as master Greg here uh but um
[00:32:19] it's worked its way into my like people routine master Greg over and over again i played it
[00:32:24] like even when i didn't know when we if and when we were going to do this episode i've been playing
[00:32:29] it at least a couple of times a week couple of days a week it's fun yeah it's fun and it's
[00:32:34] it fills the need that uh heroes of the storm had traditionally filled for me where it was like
[00:32:41] i just need to like crush some as you just stop on somebody for a while and you're it yeah
[00:32:48] let's do our hit pokemon aos island unite segment that we only do when we're on the aos islands
[00:32:55] and we only do when we're chef green ring and i apparently now chef brevander brevander
[00:33:01] ridiculous that's a great chef name terrible it's a good name for a breeder it's a bear bad name
[00:33:07] for a chef good for both breeder chef breeder chef brevander
[00:33:12] uh uh uh that's a good one we don't have to touch that one the segment's called match mayhem
[00:33:23] yes match mayhem and it's the matches we met along the way
[00:33:28] Joshua actually you know what fuck you i talked to you all this year Greg yes uh when you're playing
[00:33:35] first of all you said elder goss and i so elder goss elder gosses may number one rider die love
[00:33:44] play it all the time uh then i switched to serena and then i'll sometimes do say boy but
[00:33:51] it's serena serena it's like uh the it's the Mickey Minaj one yeah she got the boots
[00:33:57] oh right that's how she looks she looks glorious she's walking out there strutting up on down those
[00:34:03] lanes and being like i don't think so stop stop stop how could i forget hotchi matchy when i am playing
[00:34:10] as gredin i always plays gredin when i main someone i really made them yeah your your rider die
[00:34:18] it can be all supports lined up on that like q and i'm just like all right gredin here we go
[00:34:24] except there's a couple pokemon that i truly tread going up against uh mcchamp gengar both seem to
[00:34:33] kill me really quickly despite how many times i'm belching on them so i mostly run away from them
[00:34:38] there's a couple pokemon that i kill very easily cramer ant for instance when you're playing as elder goss
[00:34:44] or serena who do you like to go up against so everything's bad for elder goss well right like i
[00:34:51] can not be you said behind something i just hide behind my friends uh and so i do the leaf storm
[00:34:59] and then the bubble cotton guard bubble so i make paths to let my people run in fast
[00:35:06] so that they uh consume him to get the threat that's coming at me um i would say the things
[00:35:13] the ones that i hate dealing with that i think are hard for elder goss to deal with are blastoys
[00:35:20] and trevenant they gain a lot of trevenant trevenin tree wins games hands down it tree
[00:35:30] tree wins games but trevenin has rate against any team that has a trevenin is i would say pretty low
[00:35:38] it has so much healing and elder goss just can't oh yeah can't do the damage to
[00:35:46] the you just get stuck in this eternal cycle of i'm healing myself and then they're taking my health
[00:35:50] and it just never ends it's just like this is eventually one of us is gonna wear down and it's
[00:35:55] almost always elder goss because i don't have as much hp i love when cinderaceys think they can take
[00:36:03] me down and they are very wrong they're always very wrong about that they're a little ball
[00:36:09] yeah they're just like beat up on especially i'm gonna take you down and i'm like that's what
[00:36:14] you think i'm generally pretty good at against a lot of the glass cannons uh i can take down guard
[00:36:20] of our pretty quick uh because i can do my little dart to get inside where they're aiming their
[00:36:27] psychic blasts and then be like i'm just gonna slow you down the thing about elder goss's passive is
[00:36:32] once i've hit something three times their speed is cut down so they can't run away and so if i have
[00:36:38] if i'm with a support greed and could i could run so greed and can greed and can usually get away
[00:36:45] and usually does uh unless they're usually they have to fire out their berries to do so and i'm
[00:36:51] really good at eating up their berries before they do because i know what you're doing i know you're
[00:36:55] trying to run away from me and this is not gonna happen it'll work for most other people it does
[00:37:01] i'm like no i know i have my best friend is a greed and main and plays when the lot close
[00:37:09] it's not you my best friend knows what a slug is uh that's one of your um you got to that's
[00:37:16] sort of the qualifications to be one of your friends yeah absolutely the whole slug test that we take
[00:37:23] if i'm up if i have zarina zarina is difficult to play because she's kind of
[00:37:30] she's until you get her up high she's really easy to damage a lot yeah she's pretty on those
[00:37:38] big woods but i don't think i've seen what like it's funny that there's so many like i'm looking at
[00:37:43] the roster now and like there's like there's 50 there's a number that i just never even encountered
[00:37:49] uh but yeah but generally zarina does good against things that are arranged so if i can get in
[00:37:56] range i think's like grammar ant guard of war um espion a little bit espion packs a punch but if
[00:38:04] i can get in there i can usually stop and take them out espion is very problematic for me when
[00:38:10] i'm uh zarina does not do good things against tougher melee so buzz wall my champ is always rough
[00:38:18] because of gangar's maneuverability it's hard to pin gangar down so you have to
[00:38:25] should have wait for gangar to stop being able to run underground and have that speed boost once
[00:38:32] that i can if i gain taunt that out of them i can take a gangar down but it's hard to not have
[00:38:38] them jump into the ground to disappear samford it's gangar and machin they're both like unstoppable
[00:38:43] for me when i saw him i just had to like run yeah they're tough because they have good ways of
[00:38:49] a controlling where they are or controlling where you are so machamp is great at getting you away
[00:38:56] from things that will heal you unexpectedly and then just continue to pummel you and because gangar
[00:39:02] can dive underground like you can be attacking and they'll go underground and you're like i don't
[00:39:07] know where you're gonna pop up because i can't see you talon flame has that same issue except unlike
[00:39:14] gangar talon flames has a circle when they're flying so you know where they're gonna land
[00:39:19] oh okay and you can kind of deal with it gangar doesn't have that gangar's like i have no idea where
[00:39:24] you are and you're gonna pop up and you're yeah you're not in front of my belch
[00:39:29] you're at a pop up and eat my butt and i'm not happy about that that's why people my area is in my
[00:39:34] butt if i'm playing sable i i everything's my enemy sable i is a piece of paper that relies on being
[00:39:42] invisible and it's it's a sniper you get in you do two things and then you run because everybody's
[00:39:48] gonna kill you everything's a problem everything's a problem for sable i Josh i was gonna say i
[00:39:55] mean Greg covered a couple of them like espion is tough for kramerant to deal with i didn't i would
[00:40:03] say number one though was like buzz wall i just like buzz walls talk these days it seems like broken
[00:40:11] like if you get cornered at least when you're like if it's a real you know like a glass can and
[00:40:16] like kramerant i don't i think i've never survived i don't even know if i killed one except while
[00:40:22] using my um my unite move yeah it's tough because they have leech life so they'll get you away from
[00:40:29] your goal and then they'll drink your health so you can't like you can't damage them faster than
[00:40:35] their drinking your life if you manage to be able to survive both of those things which is pretty
[00:40:40] rare then you usually can turn around on them because they are pretty glass canony but those two
[00:40:46] moves if i think i hit my ball if you're not generally coming out of that balls wall interaction
[00:40:52] it's been very rare than i have have you have you been on a team of all evis yet to see what happens
[00:41:00] no that sounds like it's a light breathing it would love that so it's kind of her thing if you're
[00:41:06] on if your entire team is evis all the evis get a stat boost oh i love that easter egg and every time
[00:41:16] one of you scores a goal everybody sends up a heart they just get a little heart above their heads
[00:41:21] to say we did it that's very cute i love it so cute are all of the evee illusions in there
[00:41:27] no not yet we don't have the bad ones uh jolteon and flaryon and vaporian yet i like jolteon
[00:41:36] it's weird they've been working sort of backwards because we have everything except for the first
[00:41:41] gen so we have silvian lefion glaci on umbrion and espion i don't know why because those three are the
[00:41:51] least attractive of all i mean they're not as cool as they are no but he likes flaryon flaryon
[00:41:57] is always okay flaryon okay good i mean it's fine if you don't love jolteon but i think we could
[00:42:02] all agree flary on as far as the weakest yeah that always has been great let's uh do that
[00:42:10] sometime oh wait we can't because you're master and we're just slowly experts i mean we said
[00:42:15] i'm a veteran i could get up there we can go into we can go into the nightmare cesspool that is
[00:42:21] standard ranked matches um it's awful it's awful in there and i wouldn't do any of the other stuff i'm
[00:42:29] not a panic parader i'm not a panic parade is so fun though i love panic parade i have not liked it
[00:42:35] anytime i try i love it it scares like i just get like overwhelmed very quickly the thing is panic if
[00:42:43] you play it enough it gets so easy because you buy the attack boosting you buy the speed boost and
[00:42:49] then nothing can survive oh yeah the problem is is that people will play not attackers in that mode
[00:42:56] and there's no reason to play anything other than an attacker in that mode because all you need
[00:43:01] to do is attack and you need to attack quickly that's my problem because i'm only ever playing right
[00:43:05] yeah greenin does not do well in there mute you does okay but like the ones you want to play
[00:43:12] in panic parader cinder ace and deciduay they just rip everything to shreds yeah deciduay when
[00:43:19] somebody knows how to use that one pretty good is tough now but also deciduay if you can get
[00:43:25] in close that thing is what tissue paper i encountered a dojrio recently which i'd never seen
[00:43:33] and they were just like owning the whole court people who play dojrio know how to play dojre
[00:43:40] and are always a problem because that thing moves so fast and can get around anywhere on that map
[00:43:47] when they want to be there's like hi i'm here yeah like where did you come from there was like a
[00:43:51] character in hot that was like three little Vikings and you could like move the whole
[00:43:57] lot of things all over the place they were also annoying but also like impossible to play
[00:44:02] yeah if that's gonna be failings failing this is going to have the ability to leave parts of
[00:44:06] the failings behind an area is to attack things as they come you can break apart it's so exciting
[00:44:11] i'm excited for that one i'm not going to be good at that that's that's too much for me to manage
[00:44:16] master like yeah yeah well yeah you're only an expert you need some more time in the trenches
[00:44:22] to become a veteran so did you say only an expert uh because a lot of people go to school for a
[00:44:28] long time to become experts at things Greg i think that's it for us in the aos islands anything else
[00:44:35] you want to talk about any favorite outfits that you saw hollow fits that you saw short Greg
[00:44:40] my i wear the uh uh mountain eddie dame eldegas outfit with the gorgeous big hat and the quilted
[00:44:49] that is my outfit i love it yeah it is it is countis who's gonna hit an old grandma eldegas people do
[00:44:59] it's just straight up really nice yeah it's so cute oh that's very sweet it's cute and i love it
[00:45:07] i like the del fox dancer outfits really good i think that's a solid one i think it looks really great
[00:45:15] wow i'm gonna say some of these eldegas outfits yeah space style eldegas is pretty good
[00:45:20] yeah flower style is back i don't like the flower style i am 100% down and abbey old old lady outfit
[00:45:28] yeah i like it all the zarina ones are boring i don't like any of those arena ones well if i could just
[00:45:34] say one quick thing uh when we're talking about outfits do we want to talk about
[00:45:42] but champs outfits oh welcome back admentaner you mean uh rough trade mcjam
[00:45:54] yeah i think they always give him like sleeveless like jackets and they never give him
[00:46:01] it's like leather dandy or this old tiny one with the top hat that's like
[00:46:08] yeah busting out of everything look never it feels like an opportunity to kind of like
[00:46:12] accessorize a little bit you know like your glasses your little boy shorts on
[00:46:17] corrupt trade mcjam is amazing and nobody i actually bought the mcjam license and that outfit
[00:46:24] just to have it i don't play mcjam but i want rough trade mcjam yeah uh they're punk punk style
[00:46:32] azumeral is also very good yeah i like punk style yeah i think i talked about that on the first one
[00:46:37] i love that one too and then they just rethink what was the last one they just did that somebody
[00:46:43] else oh look up blazikens biker outfit for the other rough trade these guys could all start
[00:46:50] to start a little bit i'd like to see them team and uh yeah uh rough trade blazikens rough trade
[00:46:56] azumeral and rough trade mcjam are for the gays for us nobody else they know what they're doing with those
[00:47:05] oh yeah i mean they do the market research yeah blazikens wearing chaps everybody just
[00:47:11] first and it's got those feet should buzzwoll buzzwill has outfits uh buzzwill has the superhero outfit
[00:47:19] the big trench coat which is cute i've never seen well christ dark hero style yeah oh looks like
[00:47:26] someone on reddit uh drew an illustration of um what a uh made made outfit for buzzwoll wait
[00:47:34] is that a real one no that's not a real one oh they dressed up buzzwoll in a uh made outfit they all
[00:47:40] i think they only have three comfy outfits because it's really hard to see me you can't even like
[00:47:46] i'm looking at five of them i can't even figure out what i'm looking at yeah they're not great
[00:47:51] we could talk about hollow wares all day but we have to go uh play a new game joshua
[00:47:57] ah that's right it's uh the interstitial seasons are behind us and we have to get into the world of
[00:48:04] paldea is it paldea paldea paldea the paldea region all right port to go or spain we're going to be
[00:48:14] like christ christ christlie and pokemon and there's also like robot versions of pokemon and these bikes
[00:48:21] fucking jr and the the bike pokemon just just no going in they haven't fixed the frame rate
[00:48:29] they won't fix the frame rate they still they haven't done it is they show them just it is just
[00:48:35] doing any like quality yeah it's just broken um you just have to accept it's broken and it's never
[00:48:43] gonna get fixed we'll be back in a couple weeks uh yeah i think we are the suckers are saying
[00:48:50] april 23rd Tuesday april 23rd we need a couple of weeks so we can figure out what the schedule is
[00:48:57] bank some eps and then we'll be back yeah i probably gonna start playing i'm play through violet
[00:49:01] and i need to so i can complete who you gonna get all get all the things so i might i might do
[00:49:08] an egg luck this time around oh you're gonna pick as your starter who me Greg
[00:49:13] both of you i mean i obviously went with the gay duck first so quaxley i can't pick again
[00:49:21] gay duck yeah quaxley definitely quaxley's quaxley is definitely part of the alphabet mafia 100
[00:49:30] this is the game this is like the gen that i've know the least about like i'm not even sure
[00:49:34] i know the three stars are yeah i've been i've been trying to stay in the dark like i don't even know
[00:49:39] about the scream tail and all that stuff oh i don't like the little ducks final evolution never
[00:49:46] mind i think i mean it's just they they fucked it up by i think we all know like uh spragot spro-
[00:49:54] spragot titan regatit not having a cat on all four uh quadrupedal cat for the final evolution really
[00:50:04] turns me off that i mean they're all on the aims way too sexy so i might be going with cocoa
[00:50:10] for a cocoa is fun quick cocoa the singer masquerade of the magician i can
[00:50:16] and the gay card of all dancer i could do the gay card of all dancer i could do that it's it's
[00:50:22] how they dance what do you think croccalore is a singer it looks like uh because it's a singer don't
[00:50:28] argue you me out scurada or look like a singer it's a singer it has uh scala dirge
[00:50:39] well it has um it has the dirge this song kind of vibes which is a dancer singer
[00:50:45] oh you're saying singer scala dirge is a singer okay uh and man as a magician i've seen a lot
[00:50:51] of singers and none of them look like that but it's and quacoval is a carnival dancer that's definitely
[00:51:00] true that makes sense to me yeah and it's it looks really good in motion like it's weird that mioscarra
[00:51:06] and the elder duck the the duck quacoval quacoval are both like humanoid and like sexy and then
[00:51:15] the other one's just a crocodile i know why i mean it's a skeleton crocodile still it's not like a
[00:51:21] scowarder just definitely the sexy live performer yeah it's it's a torch singer okay it sings its
[00:51:28] torch song torch song i get it yeah okay it's a move i'm having a fever now no it's all it's very clear
[00:51:36] to enter it's just let's come back next week Joshua and play it we have to uh go now and go and start
[00:51:43] the game okay Greg come join us again for uh for scarlet joe hansen and we will be back then
[00:51:51] joshua or suckers and grig tell us tell the or tell the orbs suckers uh where they can find you what do
[00:52:01] you working on what do you promote any new games so i just released my scooby-doo ttrpg called
[00:52:08] the mystery business so that is out and available now you can find me on instagram at lysanders 0-3
[00:52:14] which is also what i am on threads i'm still on twitter but don't go there it's bad
[00:52:21] you can find all my games at leatherman.com's i do have a secret project that i'm working on
[00:52:25] that i can't talk about but you'll all be very excited once i can talk about it yeah he told
[00:52:29] me about it it's cool oh you too tanner oh i texted Tanner hey it's it's it's it's it's it's
[00:52:36] i forgot it's your best friend who plays greed and i forgot it's an all jar jar RPG you can only play jar jar
[00:52:45] so i made like a 3d print file for like a gungan army for warhammer i think that's
[00:52:50] closest i'm gonna get this is the closest you're gonna get and you can hear my actual play podcast
[00:52:55] there's very random encounters and i'm still doing it super effective with the pokemon podcast
[00:53:00] you can see me there there are other pokemon podcasts that's correct there they talk about
[00:53:05] different stuff so it's okay if you listen to both oh i don't know we were kind of uh talking
[00:53:10] about the competitive the news scene yeah we're kind of on your kind on the your turn a little bit
[00:53:16] of your style huh yeah that heat no let's breathe in now no but share all right doshua orp suckers
[00:53:25] Greg thank you for coming this week come back and join us next week for scarlet and
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[00:53:49] catchers where we are uh finally in talks to uh do our trainers of the season battles again uh
[00:53:57] we got a couple of australians which is making it hard to arrange time for the new season the scarlet
[00:54:03] and violet you will be able to play level checks uh on the subreddit with other bug catchers slash
[00:54:09] orb suckers and uh compete to see who gets the most upvotes and then at some point bar in the future
[00:54:15] we will battle you with our pokemon from the corresponding and oh new yeah you two are too afraid
[00:54:21] to face my party of divas in sword and shield we could still do that i'd have to pull that out
[00:54:29] where they are right now all right Joshua great goodbye alola alola alola whatever they say in
[00:54:36] aos islands and uh smell you later like aos say good orb or something good or to meet you
[00:54:47] good or but the or but the day i think it's 10 go in five come out all right goodbye everyone